Avatar Better Than Star Wars?

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feeds@yuku.com (sabacc) — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:03:53 PST

Sansweet showed a trailer for The Last Airbender at MegaCon- looked interesting and the animation was lush and fluid. I'll definitely not see that when it first comes out, though. I've been let down by too many Shyamalan movies in the past.

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feeds@yuku.com (Boba Rex) — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:15:16 PST

sabacc wrote:
Interestingly, yesterday Peter Mayhew mentioned that his favorite movie is Titanic. That's another blockbuster that I just don't see as so special or epic. Enjoyable, yes. Even moving. But the dollars it earned just don't match the quality, as far as I'm concerned.

Two words for you; Leonardo Dicaprio. He was a big reason that movie was so big. I knew plenty of people whose young daughters saw it more then three time because of him and the love story involved in the movie. I did enjoy Titanic but for me it was more because of the history of the ship itself more then a love story from the movie.

Still have no desire to see the Blue Man Group's Avatar. I'll wait for the real Avatar the Last Airbender to come out this summer

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feeds@yuku.com (sabacc) — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:52:24 PST

I think the Avatar experience just went right by me. I saw it in 3-D and all and thought it was enjoyable, but it did not affect me as much as a particularly good superhero movie or something told in a whole new way like Memento. It's hard for me to understand the affect this has had.

Interestingly, yesterday Peter Mayhew mentioned that his favorite movie is Titanic. That's another blockbuster that I just don't see as so special or epic. Enjoyable, yes. Even moving. But the dollars it earned just don't match the quality, as far as I'm concerned.

For example, and I know no one suggested this earlier, but I don't think Titanic has had much effect on film as an art. It maybe set expectations of digital effects in period movies, but I don't see it as a great movie.

Re: Avatar Better Than Star Wars?

feeds@yuku.com (kyzman) — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:56:09 PST

I think that's the point that was trying to be made in the EW article. My kids both left saying that they thought Avatar was the best movie they've ever seen. It doesn't matter if the story has been done before (realistically, what story hasn't been these days). The Avatar movie experience is what drew the crowds to the theater.

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feeds@yuku.com (sabacc) — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:24:14 PST

At today's MegaCon panel "Everything Star Wars" guest Ray Park described the effect that seeing Empire Strikes Back had on him when he was 7 years old in Scotland. Turns out it was the first movie he saw in color. He said that it opened up a whole immersive world for him and that when he saw Avatar he felt that today's kids probably were similarly blown away.

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feeds@yuku.com (sledmaster) — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:40:54 PST

OMG!!! I think Disney is owed some money.

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feeds@yuku.com (sabacc) — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:31:31 PST

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feeds@yuku.com (Knightfr0mOssus) — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:28:16 PST

sabacc wrote:

That's exactly what I thought after seeing it. This is my biggest problem with the movie.

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feeds@yuku.com (sabacc) — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:14:49 PST

Re: Avatar Better Than Star Wars?

feeds@yuku.com (Markimus) — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:56:53 PST

yes the did show his buddy later as a human in the battle.

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feeds@yuku.com (kyzman) — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:43:31 PST

I believe they show Jake's friend later in the movie after the battle scene. I remember wondering the same thing but then seeing his character.

Re: Avatar Better Than Star Wars?

feeds@yuku.com (sabacc) — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:38:25 PST

Markimus wrote:
Avatar is a great movie. I expect it to get an Oscar nomination for best picture... and the sci-fi fan in me hopes it will win.

I saw Avatar yesterday and enjoyed it but I think my enthusiasm is a victim of the hype. It's a beautiful looking film so technically I'm very impressed. The Navi are the next best step in CGI that started with Jar Jar and Gollum and the 3-D was fantastic. The story was interesting but didn't pack the punch I expected after the glowing reviews from almost everyone I've asked. My two main issues were pacing- there were lots of times I was getting bored, especially in the first half- and predictability. I didn't find the whole story predictable, not at all. I just got that one character was going to side with the Navi and feel the same level of sympathy as I have in a...

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feeds@yuku.com (Markimus) — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:10:54 PST

I saw Avatar and enjoyed it very much, but Star Wars doesn't have anything to worry about. We see this all the time some movie comes along like the Matrix or Spider Man all claiming to be the next Star Wars... then those series fizzle out. anyone still care about the Matrix series? didn't think so. I'm old enough to remember they once said the movie "Dune" was going to be the next Star Wars (until it flopped). Those other movies tend to fade away and Star Wars is still there drawing fans.

I do love 3D though. LOVE it! Avatar is awesome in 3D don't see it any other way. 3D is here to stay.

Avatar is a great movie. I expect it to get an Oscar nomination for best picture... and the sci-fi fan in me hopes it will win.

Re: Avatar Better Than Star Wars?

feeds@yuku.com (kyzman) — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:35:06 PST

If we didn't have different opinions, we'd be clones.

Good luck with the surgery & I hope you feel better.

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feeds@yuku.com (sledmaster) — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 14:11:33 PST

Hey that's ok I know we all have are own opinions and I like it when we have these discussions it is good for the boards and it makes us all better friends. Some times I just go on and on maybe it's the medication don't know I have been sick for that past few days and no end in sight hope to be ready for Monday's surgery.

Re: Avatar Better Than Star Wars?

feeds@yuku.com (sabacc) — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 01:32:07 PST

Rich you've offended Kyle and I both and we're not going to stand for it, sir!

Don't mind Kyle and I. I hope he's not offended by my comments. For my part, I disagree with tons of his opinions and still am proud to call him a friend.

Re: Avatar Better Than Star Wars?

feeds@yuku.com (sledmaster) — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:19:24 PST

I just want to let everyone know that I do like other movies that are out there new or old and Star Wars just happens to be my favorite. I didn't want it come across that the greatest move out there ( In my eyes ) is Star Wars that is just how I feel. Some people might see Avatar and love it or hate it but people focus so much on box office numbers and who has the most special effects. If you really want to talk numbers and put out there what move had the biggest box office draw the number one move for that is Gone With The Wind it blows away all the movies out there today in that category but you have to take into consideration number of theaters cost of the ticket, inflation and if you put all that in Gone With The wind comes out at the top. But don't get me wrong Avatar was a very good move and people will love it. Star Wars effected me in a different way than any other move so far I just like the way moves used to be made I guess I'm just old school. I am glad...

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feeds@yuku.com (sabacc) — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:04:14 PST

We have a fundamental difference of opinion that once you've had the best* that you never want anything else. You know how critics pick top ten lists? They may say something is the top, but they still loved nine others. How boring a world we'd have if people started making their top one lists all the time.

* I'm not arguing that the Star Wars movies are the best movies of all time. Star Wars is easily my favorite franchise of all time and is, I won't deny, a lifestyle for me. But even when I list my top ten movies I put Star Wars and Indiana Jones in a whole other category. Off to the side, not above. On occasion I'll include SW, ESB, and Raiders in a list, but generally I keep them separated. I love film and because of the time and place that I grew up, Star Wars captured my imagination and created a world that I found worth exploring for thirty years. Perhaps Avatar will be as big a part of your children's lives as they grow up and...

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feeds@yuku.com (kyzman) — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:21:49 PST

I meant that Avatar would equal to my kids what SW was to us - an incredible movie experience. For better or worse, for the majority of non-hardcore, regular movie goers, SW was an incredible movie experience - not an entire lifestyle. SW was remembered as a favorite movie of many from the 70's/80's. The author of the article (and I agreed) stated that Avatar may fill that space for today's generation based on his kids reactions. My kids had the same reaction as did my niece and my friend's kids.

My statement about not making any more movies is geared towards the fact that seemingly no matter what is ever put out on screen, it will never match SW (the series, not only the original movie) to some of the folks on this board (and others). If nothing will ever be as grand, why bother watching anything else? It's like saying you achieved nirvana already and sure, I'll wake up out of bed tomorrow, but I'm already doing so with the assumption that it...

Re: Avatar Better Than Star Wars?

feeds@yuku.com (sabacc) — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 04:10:34 PST

kyzman wrote:
If nothing will ever live up to SW in the future, why would we continue to go to any movies? May as well just shut down Hollywood now.

Um, I'm as big a fan of Star Wars as anybody, but I like a ton of movies. If lasagna were my favorite food your statement is equivalent to, "If no food is as good as lasagna, why would you eat anything else?" That's absurd.

I still haven't seen Avatar so I have no idea what I'll think of the movie. If it's better as a film than any of the Star Wars features I can't say. The reason I spoke up in this thread, and I addressed it above was that you said in your first post, "I'm guessing that Avatar will become to that generation what SW was to my generation." Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you meant. For example, you might have said the same thing about The Matrix in 1999. While it was a huge...

Avatar Better Than Star Wars?

feeds@yuku.com (kyzman) — Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:24:25 PST

http://popwatch.ew.com/20...-wars-the-debate-begins/

I liked the above article because I found myself wondering the same thing after I saw Avatar. I thought the movie was just incredibly stunning. After leaving the movie, I longed for what the prequels could have actually been and (hopefully) what the sequels will be. Both of my kids left Avatar noting that they thought it was better than SW as well. I'm guessing that Avatar will become to that generation what SW was to my generation.