The Empire Strikes Back http://swgfa.com/topic/522/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html en-us Copyright 2006, Kickapps feeds@kickapps.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@kickapps.com (WebMaster) Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:28:47 GMT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:20:31 GMT Kickapps Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://kickapps.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://kickapps.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://kickapps.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/17814/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-17814 JGordon24 wrote:
I also decided to go with the original theatrical version, Campbell and I'm so very glad I did.
Yeah, I'm not one to poo poo the Special Editions and revisions, but it's good to be reminded how darn good the original versions are once in a while. Pin was patient enough to sit through about an hour of it fortunately, but when Luke fell through the base of Cloud City she couldn't stifle a "Fake!" Oi, if she'd only heard his pitiful howling in the 2004 version. image

]]> feeds@kickapps.com (sabacc) http://swgfa.com/sreply/17814 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:20:31 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/17809/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-17809 sabacc wrote:
I recently listened to the Radio Drama for Empire and found an interesting point that's made clear that I generally don't think about when I'm watching the movie. From Echo Base, why doesn't Han Solo go looking for Luke in the Millennium Falcon? We are told that they are having trouble adapting the Speeders to the cold, but the reason the Falcon is unavailable is that it was damaged during a previous mission. Chewbacca and Han are doing repair work, as we see in the movie, but they had repeatedly asked for assistance from the already-shorthanded General Rieeken. Han even says something to the effect of, "Is this how you get repaid when you help the Rebels?"

Another interesting note is that Luke is Lt. Cmdr. Skywalker at the beginning of the ESB RD. He is promoted by General Rieekan after Rogue Squadron's "Boss" Commander Narra was killed in an... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (JGordon24) http://swgfa.com/sreply/17809 Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:40:51 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/17798/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-17798
Another interesting note is that Luke is Lt. Cmdr. Skywalker at the beginning of the ESB RD. He is promoted by General Rieekan after Rogue Squadron's "Boss" Commander Narra was killed in an ambush prior to the events in the movie. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (sabacc) http://swgfa.com/sreply/17798 Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:13:30 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/17777/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-17777 feeds@kickapps.com (JGordon24) http://swgfa.com/sreply/17777 Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:39:59 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/17773/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-17773 feeds@kickapps.com (sabacc) http://swgfa.com/sreply/17773 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:52:43 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/17736/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-17736
As for Carrie Fisher's involvement, I know they chose her for two reasons- she's a central character that would participate and could tell "I was there" stories and because she's had an ongoing professional relationship with Lucas over the years. It doesn't get a lot of airtime, but she has been a very active script doctor in Hollywood for many years. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (sabacc) http://swgfa.com/sreply/17736 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:55:53 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/17725/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-17725
I've watched a couple movies like that, but no Star Wars. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (JGordon24) http://swgfa.com/sreply/17725 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:37:21 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/17724/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-17724 feeds@kickapps.com (Fett 526) http://swgfa.com/sreply/17724 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:13:12 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/17707/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-17707 feeds@kickapps.com (sabacc) http://swgfa.com/sreply/17707 Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:39:39 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/17695/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-17695 The Empire Strikes Back! ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (JGordon24) http://swgfa.com/sreply/17695 Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:51:41 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/16108/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-16108 sabacc72 wrote:
Chris wrote,
I guess it's one of those things that I may have read or heard or even realized on some level at some point in my life, but yesterday as I was watching the film, it simply didn't occur to me.
That happens to me, too- especially with ever more Star Wars minutia being uploaded into my brain daily. I was surprised when Roman blew us away at trivia the first couple of times, because I used to be one of the best at that. Now there's just so much new information that no one can keep up with it all. And that's exactly why I think it's a good idea to periodically check back in with the source. We need to go back and revisit the movies like this to recall what got us into this in the first place and to help us appreciate how all the new and old pieces fit together.

I totally... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (JGordon24) http://swgfa.com/sreply/16108 Wed, 06 May 2009 16:08:05 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/16106/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-16106 I guess it's one of those things that I may have read or heard or even realized on some level at some point in my life, but yesterday as I was watching the film, it simply didn't occur to me. That happens to me, too- especially with ever more Star Wars minutia being uploaded into my brain daily. I was surprised when Roman blew us away at trivia the first couple of times, because I used to be one of the best at that. Now there's just so much new information that no one can keep up with it all. And that's exactly why I think it's a good idea to periodically check back in with the source. We need to go back and revisit the movies like this to recall what got us into this in the first place and to help us appreciate how all the new and old pieces fit together.

As for why Han was tortured to draw in Luke, I think you're right about Leia. She might have had some innate sense to reject Vader's intentions.... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (sabacc72) http://swgfa.com/sreply/16106 Wed, 06 May 2009 01:14:50 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/16104/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-16104 sabacc72 wrote:

Chris, you also wrote about the torture rack scene. That's another one of my dark favorites. You'll note that Han exclaims, "hot, hot, hot," as he's being lowered onto the device. Soon this turns into shrieks and screams heard well outside his cell and into the hallway. This was not the only place it was heard. Vader knew that he could virtually summon Luke by making the young man's friend suffer. The pain felt by Han is how Luke sensed that his friends were suffering. That's a fantastic point, Campbell. I wasn't even thinking about Luke at that point. Although, he is ultimately the goal for Vader, so I should have realized this. I guess it's one of those things that I may have read or heard or even realized on some level at some point in my life, but yesterday as I was watching the film, it simply... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (JGordon24) http://swgfa.com/sreply/16104 Tue, 05 May 2009 22:06:06 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/16103/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-16103
Chris wrote,
we see a TIE Pilot fly out of the TIE Fighter as it explodes after flying into an oncoming asteroid.

That's a great shot and one that many people discovered first once home video started offering widescreen versions of the movies in the early 90s. It's a shot that draws my attention every time I see it and is sort of a visual Wilhelm for me. The scene was referenced in Revenge of the Sith as the ARC-170s "are doing their jobs" as cannon fodder while Anakin and Obi-Wan aim for General Grievous's ship. An ARC-170 explodes and a... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (sabacc72) http://swgfa.com/sreply/16103 Tue, 05 May 2009 21:35:20 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/16101/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-16101 Star Wars Day) watching all six movies. I was playing a trivia game on-line and needed information which required me to scan through the entire Saga. I actually watched Episode V twice. The first time I was quickly scanning through it and the second time was for the movie of the month. I hit the play button and let it fly.

This is my most favorite Star Wars movie if I had to choose just one. I so enjoy watching the transitions between a bitter cold Hoth, up into black chilly space, onto a dark and damp Dagobah and then onto a bright and welcoming Cloud City. Just a few things I noticed that I wanted to share:

I actually noticed this a few weeks ago while scanning through the film, but I decided to wait until now to talk about it. I noticed that we see a TIE Pilot fly out of the TIE Fighter as it explodes after flying into an oncoming asteroid. If you've never seen this, go check right away. It's very... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (JGordon24) http://swgfa.com/sreply/16101 Tue, 05 May 2009 20:59:58 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/13372/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-13372 feeds@kickapps.com (Markimus) http://swgfa.com/sreply/13372 Sat, 24 May 2008 10:48:06 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/13369/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-13369 Wow I have never heard that one before. image ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Antonidas) http://swgfa.com/sreply/13369 Sat, 24 May 2008 06:23:44 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/13362/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-13362
]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Prowler01) http://swgfa.com/sreply/13362 Fri, 23 May 2008 09:10:32 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/13352/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-13352 feeds@kickapps.com (sabacc72) http://swgfa.com/sreply/13352 Fri, 23 May 2008 00:45:47 PST <![CDATA[ Re: The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/reply/13333/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#reply-13333
]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Prowler01) http://swgfa.com/sreply/13333 Thu, 22 May 2008 05:54:59 PST <![CDATA[ The Empire Strikes Back ]]> http://swgfa.com/topic/522/t/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html If you choose to face Vader, you will do it alone. I cannot interfere.

Can't he... or won't he? I know Yoda and Ben don't want Luke to leave Dagobah to follow Vader's bait, but once he indeed goes, why doesn't he receive any help from Ben?

As he's half-dead below Cloud City Luke even calls for his mentor, "Ben... Ben, please," to no end. -Campbell ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (sabacc72) http://swgfa.com/topic/522 Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:28:47 PST