Wow I have never heard that one before.
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Antonidas |
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Wow I have never heard that one before.
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Markimus |
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Sadly there is no High Def star wars release yet. - But I guess it has to come out eventually and Lucas can make more money off of me !
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JGordon24 |
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Well, I spent yesterday (Star Wars Day) watching all six movies. I was playing a trivia game on-line and needed information which required me to scan
through the entire Saga. I actually watched Episode V twice. The first time I was quickly scanning through it and the second time was for the
movie of the month. I hit the play button and let it fly.
This is my most favorite Star Wars movie if I had to choose just one. I so enjoy watching the transitions between a bitter cold Hoth, up into black chilly space, onto a dark and damp Dagobah and then onto a bright and welcoming Cloud City. Just a few things I noticed that I wanted to share: I actually noticed this a few weeks ago while scanning through the film, but I decided to wait until now to talk about it. I noticed that we see a TIE Pilot fly out of the TIE Fighter as it explodes after flying into an oncoming asteroid. If you've never seen this, go check right away. It's very cool watching the pilot disintegrate into thin air. I've also noticed this before, but never mentioned anything about it. I love how the music is cued up to Leia's blaster as she aimlessly fires away at Slave I. The music hits as the laser fire hits which seems to suggest a more powerful effort on her part. Up until the 30th Anniversary Han Solo with Torture Rack action figure came out a few years back, I had thought that the Empire was simply preparing Han for being put into carbon freeze. However, it really begs the question, why in the world were they torturing him? Like he said, "They never even asked me any questions." If the table was not preparing his body to go through being frozen, then what purpose did it serve? They could have just kept him in the cell until they were ready and then put him in. Had they been trying to learn Alliance secrets, they would have been asking questions as we are to assume Vader did with Leia in Episode IV. Anyone have any thoughts on this? It's hard to believe that next month will complete our first ever movie of the month program. I'm hoping that these quick and fun reviews from the few of us that are participating will spark enough interest for others to follow in our footsteps for the second half of the year. What a great way to keep track of what month it is, eh? "Ahh, I can't even remember what month this is! Oh wait, yes I do. I watched Episode V the other day, so it's gotta be May!" President - Tampa Star Wars Club,
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sabacc72 |
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I'm really glad that some of us are doing this, too, and hope we can recruit more people. Maybe Port Saint Lucie will give us a leg up in this. It is
really fun, though, to have others reviewing the movies that we've all so often seen. More often than not, you'll notice something you've never
seen no matter how many times before that you've seen the Saga.
Chris wrote, we see a TIE Pilot fly out of the TIE Fighter as it explodes after flying into an oncoming asteroid. That's a great shot and one that many people discovered first once home video started offering widescreen versions of the movies in the early 90s. It's a shot that draws my attention every time I see it and is sort of a visual Wilhelm for me. The scene was referenced in Revenge of the Sith as the ARC-170s "are doing their jobs" as cannon fodder while Anakin and Obi-Wan aim for General Grievous's ship. An ARC-170 explodes and a clone goes tumbling out just like in Empire. Rick McCallum claimed that he was the person filmed for that shot and that that was his cameo in RotS, but I don't know if he was joking or not. Chris, you also wrote about the torture rack scene. That's another one of my dark favorites. You'll note that Han exclaims, "hot, hot, hot," as he's being lowered onto the device. Soon this turns into shrieks and screams heard well outside his cell and into the hallway. This was not the only place it was heard. Vader knew that he could virtually summon Luke by making the young man's friend suffer. The pain felt by Han is how Luke sensed that his friends were suffering. |
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JGordon24 |
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sabacc72 wrote:That's a fantastic point, Campbell. I wasn't even thinking about Luke at that point. Although, he is ultimately the goal for Vader, so I should have realized this. I guess it's one of those things that I may have read or heard or even realized on some level at some point in my life, but yesterday as I was watching the film, it simply didn't occur to me. That brings me to another question. Why Han? Why not Chewie? I suppose he knew better than to try Leia again after his unsuccessful attempt made three years earlier. President - Tampa Star Wars Club,
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sabacc72 |
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Chris wrote,
I guess it's one of those things that I may have read or heard or even realized on some level at some point in my life, but yesterday as I was watching the film, it simply didn't occur to me.That happens to me, too- especially with ever more Star Wars minutia being uploaded into my brain daily. I was surprised when Roman blew us away at trivia the first couple of times, because I used to be one of the best at that. Now there's just so much new information that no one can keep up with it all. And that's exactly why I think it's a good idea to periodically check back in with the source. We need to go back and revisit the movies like this to recall what got us into this in the first place and to help us appreciate how all the new and old pieces fit together. As for why Han was tortured to draw in Luke, I think you're right about Leia. She might have had some innate sense to reject Vader's intentions. Also, Vader's Empire viewed Wookiees as slave labor so he probably didn't have much respect for Chewbacca- he probably didn't think of him at all. Vader wouldn't have thought the suffering of a Wookiee would call out deeply to Luke. |
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JGordon24 |
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sabacc72 wrote:I totally agree. Going back and watching the Saga is paramount. So often people get lost in translation by reading the novels and comics and playing the video games while ignoring the source. While the Expanded Universe is important, it's also very important that we not forget why the EU exsists to begin with. President - Tampa Star Wars Club,
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JGordon24 |
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Reminder to watch the movie of the month, The Empire Strikes Back!
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sabacc |
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Good reminder! I've got some days off later this week and that's on the agenda. I watched the first 20 minutes on YouTube in Asia, but I need to break
out the DVD and really enjoy the whole thing in one shot.
-Campbell
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Fett 526 |
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Actually I just finished watching the whole Saga on Wednesday with audio commentary on. I have NEVER watch any movie with audio commentary. It was awesome to
finally do so with SW. Although I didn't quite get why they chose Carrie Fisher to join in during the OT :P
"You can run, but you'll only die tired". - Boba Fett from Boba Fett: A Practical Man
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JGordon24 |
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That's pretty cool, Tony. I should do that as well.
I've watched a couple movies like that, but no Star Wars. Administrator - RebelScum.com
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sabacc |
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I am a frustrated filmmaker-wannabe so I generally "watch" the commentary on every movie I can find. Often I've even listened to it on movies
that I don't even like much just to learn about the process. It's especially easy while computing or doing chores around the house. If you've
recently seen the movie it often doesn't require you to watch the screen. I've been doing this since commentaries started when laserdiscs were the
videophiles preferred media.
As for Carrie Fisher's involvement, I know they chose her for two reasons- she's a central character that would participate and could tell "I was there" stories and because she's had an ongoing professional relationship with Lucas over the years. It doesn't get a lot of airtime, but she has been a very active script doctor in Hollywood for many years. -Campbell
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sabacc |
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I chose the "unadulterated" version of Empire to watch this month. You know, the one that was released in double-DVD sets. I watched Empire as it
originally appeared and thought it was just great. I really enjoyed the pacing, the teachings of Yoda, Hoth and Bespin, and the introductions of Lando
Calrissian and Boba Fett. Without a doubt, this is still my favorite episode.
-Campbell
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JGordon24 |
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Will either be watching this tonight or possibly Monday. Looking forward to it!
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sabacc |
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I recently listened to the Radio Drama for Empire and found an interesting point that's made clear that I generally don't think about when I'm
watching the movie. From Echo Base, why doesn't Han Solo go looking for Luke in the Millennium Falcon? We are told that they are having trouble adapting
the Speeders to the cold, but the reason the Falcon is unavailable is that it was damaged during a previous mission. Chewbacca and Han are doing repair work,
as we see in the movie, but they had repeatedly asked for assistance from the already-shorthanded General Rieeken. Han even says something to the effect of,
"Is this how you get repaid when you help the Rebels?"
Another interesting note is that Luke is Lt. Cmdr. Skywalker at the beginning of the ESB RD. He is promoted by General Rieekan after Rogue Squadron's "Boss" Commander Narra was killed in an ambush prior to the events in the movie. -Campbell
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JGordon24 |
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sabacc wrote:I've got to listen to those again. It's been far too long. On that note, Courtney and I watched Episode V this afternoon. I also decided to go with the original theatrical version, Campbell and I'm so very glad I did. Administrator - RebelScum.com
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sabacc |
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JGordon24 wrote:Yeah, I'm not one to poo poo the Special Editions and revisions, but it's good to be reminded how darn good the original versions are once in a while. Pin was patient enough to sit through about an hour of it fortunately, but when Luke fell through the base of Cloud City she couldn't stifle a "Fake!" Oi, if she'd only heard his pitiful howling in the 2004 version. -Campbell
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