
Some pictures of him I've not liked, but this one looks appropriately scary.
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sabacc72 |
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Mike sent me this photo of Heath Ledger as next year's Joker in "The Dark Knight."
![]() Some pictures of him I've not liked, but this one looks appropriately scary. |
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vgm49 |
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I saw the new batman action fig in the new toyfare. It looks like he is wearing underarmor with plates of armor over it. It looks great. I just hope they dont put nipples on the suit.
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sabacc72 |
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I'll have to look that up.
This is another image that Mike sent me that might be the armor portrayed by that toy. My only wish, which won't come true- white eyes. ![]() You know how Spider-Man got the eyes right? Batman makers never seem brave enough to give him the white eyes that Batman in the comics traditionally sports. I think they could have made it look extremely cool and actually more mysterious. I've always been a little disgusted at the notion of Bruce Wayne putting on and taking off make-up every time he dons the cowl. The white coverings over the eyes would solve that. Sigh, yeah, I know I'm the only one that thinks about that kind of stuff.... |
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whendroidsfly |
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True ,I would have never thought of that. I usually dwell on whether or not his armor could actually be effective in combat.
I hope this is a continuation of Batman Begins. But I'm sure I'll like it either way. |
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sabacc72 |
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I think I'll like it, too, based on how good Begins was.
About that idea of effective combat armor. I've always disliked previous Batman movies because they all make the cowl in such a way that him not be able to turn his neck. It's bad enough to have the blind spots afforded by a mask, but add in the inability to turn to look at something and you've got a joke. I always hated seeing Michael Keaton and company moving at the waste when they needed to see something to the side of straight on. |
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Clandestiny |
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Yeah that always bugged me to. And the makeup thing as well. Occasionally in the story you'd see him change quickly yet they never addressed having/cleaning makeup around the eyes....
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sabacc72 |
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Here's a mash-up trailer of Batman Begins mixed with American Psycho. Some interesting possibilities... though I'm glad Begins turned out like it did.
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whendroidsfly |
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Poor guy passed away yesterday. He had a lot of trouble sleeping recently so I don't think people should assume that he was suicidle because he took sleeping pills. He had a 2 year old daughter. Here is a page that has a little about the recent event and at the bottom of the same page is a article with comments from Mark Hamill from earlier this month;
www.cinematical.com/tag/heathledger |
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I just got back from seeing TDK in IMAX. First of all, I made the mistake of sitting in the front row. MY EYES! But that was my choice and I must live it. Much
like the characters in TDK must live with the choices they made.
I don't mean this in a dissenting fashion, but this is not a fun movie. There were fun moments to be sure, but this movie beats you down, just like the Joker beats Batman and Gotham City down. It's brutal. Spider-man this is not. Hell, Batman Begins it is not! This movie is less a comic book superhero romp than a treatise on the moral and ethical choices we make, the consequences of such choices, and how far we're willing to go to make the world safe. The Joker is all about pushing people's buttons to the point where he gets to what's really underneath. When you take away all of our safety nets and comfort zones, who are we really? What are we willing to do to grab that back? Who is the real monster here? In the face of adversity, what are we really prepared to do and can we live with ourselves afterwards? If we step over the line, can we live with the consequences? Can we live with them if we don't? The Joker rains chaos upon Gotham, burning it into the ground figuratively speaking. The city is a shambles by the end of this movie and the characters left witness to it probably wish they hadn't been. I actually teared up at the end because of the choice Batman had to make. It's an awful choice, but one he had to burden himself with for the good of Gotham. I honestly don't know where the franchise can go from here. It's not just a matter of thinking up which villain they'll showcase. Things are left such a mess at the end TDK that I can't fathom how they'll ever be put straight again. Some people have compared this to The Empire Strikes Back. That movie had a glimmer of hope at the end. This movie does not. I can't imagine anyone walking out of this movie feeling good. Was it Moriarty that suggested this movie could have been titled Batman Fails? He's right. And that's precisely what happens. The movie plays with the idea that false hope is better than no hope at all. That's not exactly the feel good message of the year, you know? Again, I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from seeing this movie. It's a great film. I just want people to know what to expect. As I sat in the theater at the end of the movie, I was sullen. This movie did not end happily or hopefully. It's mean. It's Batman against the world, or at least that's what it feels like. I get what he's fighting for, but at the same time, if I were in his shoes, would I accept the burden? Or would I give up? It would be so easy to give up and let the decay wash over you, but Batman believes so clearly in a better day for Gotham that he's willing to sacrifice himself for the cause. This movie isn't suitable for children and I can't imagine any children actually having fun watching it. The movie deals with themes and philosophies and brutality that would be completely over their heads. The Burton Batman films are more suitable for them. When they get into their teens, then maybe they can understand and appreciate what's going on here. This movie is stripped of any comic book accoutrements present in the first film and certainly any comic book superhero film to date. The stage is stripped down to the gritty reality of our society, making the destruction of the social fabric of Gotham all the more frightening. The performances were all wonderful. I don't know about any Academy Award nominations for Ledger. Even if he gets one, I doubt he'd win. Ultimately, it's still the Joker. Gandalf and Jack Sparrow didn't win, so neither will the Joker. But that's neither here nor there. Heath Ledger wasn't in this movie. At least, I never saw him. The Joker was all over this film and his presence permeated scenes he wasn't even in. I liked Jack Nicholson's Joker, but that was a Joker for a different world. A comic book world. Heath Ledger gave us a Joker for our world and it's scary indeed. Aaron Eckhart was also great as Harvey Dent. I wish a little more time was spent on him towards the end, a little more care spent with his transformation from White Knight to raging vigilante. But a small quibble. Christian Bale didn't really have anything showy to do in this movie, but he's the glue that held it all together. Without his calm center, this movie would have blown apart easily. Gary Oldman brought nuances and earnestness to the role of Jim Gordon that I wish were present in other incarnations of the character. His Gordon isn't afraid to take a stand, whether it be against corruption, criminals, or Batman himself. The cinematography in IMAX was a wonder to behold. Everytime the screen opened up the audience gasped. It filled my entire range of vision and I felt fully encompassed by the world Nolan was presenting. Batman's aerial acrobatics rocked in IMAX and I'm sure I'll be let down when I see them in normal resolution. The VFX were never noticed save for some Two Face stuff. Speaking of which, I felt the look of Two Face was a bit exaggerated and leaned towards unbelievable. The one element of the film that pulled me out of the reality Nolan worked so hard to establish. Again, quibble. It didn't lessen my enjoyment of the film in the least. The action scenes were good. I particularly liked the truck chase in the middle of the film, especially some work with the Bat Pod. The climax of the film wasn't an action set piece but an ethical one. Really, anyone going into this movie looking for great action sequences will probably be disappointed. There was plenty of action and some of it was cheer worthy, but what sells it is the verisimilitude Nolan exercises in the composition of them. You're wowed because it looks and feels real. When the title The Dark Knight flashed across the screen at the end of the film, I realized what it meant. It's not simply a throwaway title from the Batman line of comic books. It actually holds thematic resonance with what transpired in the film and that floored me. Just reading those three simple words on the screen had such an effect on me. It was the perfect end note for the film and I sat there for minutes afterwards just contemplating what those words meant and the hows and whys of the way the film unfolded. I felt bad for Batman and as great as I felt the movie was, I wasn't instantly anticipating a sequel because what would it bring? I'm afraid to find out. The genius of this film is that it took two popular characters in the Batman mythos and redefined them for a generation. This is the benchmark all future interpretations of the Joker and Harvey Dent will be judged against. This movie broke all bounderies of superhero convention. It defied all the rules and presented us with something that stands apart from everything that's come before. There are other superhero movies that are more fun, more exhilarating, more of a visual feast. But none have ever (and I wager will ever) come close to delving the depths of our social fabric the way this film has. My two favorite films of this summer--nay, the year--both deal with the same thing (though in much different ways): the human condition. WALL•E was a cautionary tale that ended hopefully and happily. The Dark Knight is all about the examination of the self and shows us that deep down, we may not like what we see. But one day--through the efforts of a lone vigilante willing to take on our burdens and give us hope--maybe we won't have to. 9/10 |
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I completely enjoyed Dark Knight, it had a graphic novel feel to it instead of comic book. Not the predictable story lines. Joker was brilliant!!!
With Bale moving on to T4, maybe they could end this Batman series as a duo? Or maybe they are working towrds a Batman vs Superman type thing? What direction could they take this series now? Need to catch the IMAX version, it was sold out for midnite when I went to get a ticket.
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**Possible spoilers**
That being said, I thought the movie was well worth the theater spend and I would give it a 4/5 stars. Not the greatest movie I've ever seen, but
certainly the best of the year so far.
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RogueScribner |
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Yeah, I also found it weird that they cut away from the party. Did the Joker just shrug and leave?
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whendroidsfly |
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I must say that I agree with most of the reviews and comments. While watching, I also felt that some of moral logic was too deep or at least not helping to
keep the pace that an action movie should have ( not to say that there is not enough action ). Yet, I do feel like I better understand why the Joker is the way
he is.
The burdens that Batman chooses to bear in this movie are no surprise to me and are only as disappointing as when Bruce had to pretend like a drunk rude host at his own party in Batman Begins. I actually left the theater satisfied that the hero did resolve a lot even if Gordon' family and Alfred are the only ones who are keeping track and the rest of Gotham misunderstands him. I am still excited about this movie and want to say that it is one of the best action movies ever made but I should watch it a few times when it's on dvd to decide.
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I saw the movie again this afternoon. It goes down a lot easier the 2nd time around. I noticed a couple of logistical issues this time around, but I actually
had fun with the movie. So if I scared anyone off by saying the movie wasn't fun, don't worry. I think I just wasn't expecting the Batman movie we
got and I was thrown for a loop that night.
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Apparently, some rumors have Depp playing the Riddler and Jolie playing Catwoman in the next movie:
http://www.comcast.net/movies/reelnews/831/riddlemethisjolieampdeppinnewbatman/ |
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DarthShader |
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Now, THAT would be cool!
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Clandestiny |
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Two of my favorites!
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kyzman |
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I'm glad that other folks are complaining about Batman's voice in the movie as well. I didn't want to whine or nitpick certain pieces of the movie,
but my wife and I both thought that Batman's voice was a little over the top. We spent our entire car ride home saying everything in the new 'death
metal' Batman voice and apparently others are complaining as well: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5he93UUhn-_x-SB1GCUwo-jlUaaHAD92AVMVG0
Kinda makes you long for the original Cookie Monster Death Metal vocals heard here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWac5UT80no |
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DarthShader |
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sabacc72 |
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Funny Cookie Monster shtick! And it's good to see him talking about a cookie again instead of PC snacks like carrots and celery. As for the voice Bale uses
for Batman, that was distracting to me as well. I'm all for Batman striking fear into evildoer's souls but to differentiate him from Bruce Wayne
it's less believable than a pasted on mustache. I don't think this is Bale trying to get around his British accent as he seems capable of doing that
well, so I'm thinking this was Nolan, the director's idea.
On rumors of a further installment starring Catwoman and Riddler- Is it not possible to make a superhero sequel with only one villain. The Batman series became a joke in the 90s like this so let's avoid that pitfall this time, huh? What say to "amp up" the movie we just make it even better. Don't cop out and just add more cousin Olivers... I finally read Mike's review just now and am very impressed. I saw the movie on his second viewing and have only seen it once. I thoroughly enjoyed it and did find it fun thinking during the bank heist that this is the first generation of filmmaking actually influenced, not just attempting to recreate, Tarantino. That was fun for me. The Joker was spectacular, perhaps my favorite character in a movie in years. Hands down, this is the scariest, most threatening Joker ever made. Harvey Dent's story was excellent, and I was spoiler free so it was great fun to see Two-Face more Dent's IAD nickname more than a villain. Much of the rest of the movie took path very similar to Batman Begins after the origin for me. Great stuff, but nothing stand out. I don't think I'll see this in theaters again, but I look forward to reevaluating it on DVD. Batman is important to me and this movie kept all that alive and added a bit- but I ask you- isn't it time he stops using all the make-up under his mask? * that's a joke, mostly, but that really drives me batty to think that he has to spend time applying and removing eye shadow whenever he fights crime. |
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"Harvey Dent's story was excellent, and I was spoiler free so it was great fun to see Two-Face more Dent's IAD nickname more than a villain."
I didn't even know two-face would be in the movie so that was a great suprise. I am glad we now have movies like this and Ironman that have set a new standard. |
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